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    The Questions Thread.

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    Post  tdudey123 Sun May 08, 2011 4:35 am

    @Mozart No, it fits perfectly in the place where it's supposed to, but it's a problem with the turret. I know it is, I just don't know how to solve it. The turret is too big to rotate in the shell, so it causes friction with the front of the shell, causing it to not turn properly.
    @clunk07 exactly, that's what I've been saying.

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    Post  NightStalker Sun May 08, 2011 2:05 pm

    Hey guys im new to Nerf modding in general and have been lurking around for a bit. i've seen what you can do and im quite interested in modding my new stampede. I was looking around online for parts and tried the local DSE but came up with jack all, so where would i find a mod kit (Spring, Batteries, O Ring ect.)?? Ive had a search but the best i can come up with is a kit that doesnt exist... Any help guys?

    Merged into Questions Thread. Please post all questions in the Questions thread. Thanks. - Brad
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    Post  Nemesis Sun May 08, 2011 2:17 pm

    This is the best place for springs BLack Tactical. Seems alot of Nerfers use them.
    Do a Google search or go to http://www.nerfsg.com/ and that will get you the other info.
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    Post  Luke Sun May 08, 2011 2:20 pm

    The Black Tactical Stampede kit was back in stock on Friday but now its Disappeared completely
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    Post  Unknown Sun May 08, 2011 2:26 pm

    NightStalker wrote:Hey guys im new to Nerf modding in general and have been lurking around for a bit. i've seen what you can do and im quite interested in modding my new stampede. I was looking around online for parts and tried the local DSE but came up with jack all, so where would i find a mod kit (Spring, Batteries, O Ring ect.)?? Ive had a search but the best i can come up with is a kit that doesnt exist... Any help guys?

    The Stampede can be broken into two parts:

    Power
    Spring
    AR removal

    Voltage
    Guide
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    Post  Nemesis Sun May 08, 2011 2:39 pm

    Luke wrote:The Black Tactical Stampede kit was back in stock on Friday but now its Disappeared completely
    I have noticed this as well with the Maverick spring.
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    Post  Unknown Sun May 08, 2011 2:42 pm

    They're not coming back... just like the DTG spring.

    I remember reading that BT only does a few batches of springs before retiring them but don't quote me on that, I'm not totally sure.
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    Post  NachoTaco Sun May 08, 2011 2:43 pm

    Can't you buy the stampede kits from SgNerf?
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    Post  Unknown Sun May 08, 2011 2:46 pm

    You don't really need them, Servulus' spring are just as good and cheaper.

    Foam padding can be found anywhere and that small spring isn't essential.
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    Post  NightStalker Sun May 08, 2011 3:23 pm

    Thanks for the help guys, shall start buying some mods when i get paid wednesday
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    Post  tdudey123 Sun May 08, 2011 8:54 pm

    Hey guys, I have a question for you (well,durr, that's why I'm in the questions thread). Is it possible to put the maverick turret into the shell without the useless black piece of casing, and have it rotate and fire properly. Here's a picture to explain:

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    So, could I put that into the maverick and have it still rotate and fire properly?


    EDIT: I've got a way to do it. I'm not sure if this has been done before, but all you have to do is putt a spacer in between the turret and the rod. This is very useful for if your barrel gets to big for some odd reason (like mine did). Here's a pic:

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    Post  Winning Mon May 09, 2011 2:44 am

    Does the nerf Reflex sight give auto aim or should I buy a 100 dollar version?
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    Post  Mozart Mon May 09, 2011 2:53 am

    Pretty sure the Nerf one is just a bit of clear plastic with an LED in the middle, man. It's just a toy. You don't have to spend that much, try Dealxtream.com they have heaps of cheap, cool sights and scopes.

    Mod-EDIT, fixed up your double-post - Chaos
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    Post  238232 Mon May 09, 2011 3:04 am

    Winning wrote:Does the nerf Reflex sight give auto aim or should I buy a 100 dollar version?


    Good attempt at trolling. Not very subtle though.
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    Post  Mozart Mon May 09, 2011 3:12 am

    Separate question, what is trolling..? Thanks for fixing that up.
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    Post  Chaos-Blades Mon May 09, 2011 3:15 am

    Mozart wrote:Separate question, what is trolling..? Thanks for fixing that up.
    No probs. Trolling is where someone deliberately says something to piss people off. It's something that quite a few people have been banned/deleted for here at Oznerf.

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    Post  Switchblade Mon May 09, 2011 3:53 am

    Question:
    With the BBUMB, when I use the pump (to fill the air tank), no air is stored. I have then understanding that the air tank is situated where the pin is, correct? So if I use the pump to 'push' air through to the tank, nothing happens, yet if I take that section of of the setup, and just blow air through the pipe, it come out the other end.

    Vid to better explain point:
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    Post  Winning Mon May 09, 2011 4:56 am

    Chaos-Blades wrote:
    Mozart wrote:Separate question, what is trolling..? Thanks for fixing that up.
    No probs. Trolling is where someone deliberately says something to piss people off. It's something that quite a few people have been banned/deleted for here at Oznerf.


    Thanks.
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    Post  Zinv Mon May 09, 2011 5:35 am

    Due some some unforeseen circumstances, the stampede upgrade kits that are sold in Black tactical are remove from the system. Do bear with us as we are solving the problem now. Thanks
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    Post  makeitgo Mon May 09, 2011 7:07 am

    Okay, first of all, the 'bulb' is NOT where the air gets stored in the BBUMB. The air tank is actually the skinny pipe that you're holding most of the time. The reason no air is being stored is because the seal to the pump is leaking. You need to goop it or hot glue it so it doesn't come apart. The black thing in the pump tube is a one way air valve. DO NOT TOUCH THAT IN ANY WAY!

    If you want to hook up a bike pump, remove the pump/plunger first, seal up the stock pump tube . You'll need a cap of some sort. Drill a hole in the in the pump/plunger tube (not the bulb or the skinny pipe) and attach the bike pump there.

    This is a pic of my Hop 'A' Long. I used a BBUMB.
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    I cut that skinny tube, otherwise known as the air tank, and replaced it with that flexible white tube you see in the pic. I used that because that's all I had at the time. I left the pump as is but that tube is where you would attach the bike pump.

    -OR-

    If you replace the air tank (skinny tube) with a bigger air tank, you would attach the bike pump to that. You'd have to seal it of course. If you want to increase the power (amount of air) just replace that skinny tube with something bigger like 1 inch PVC... or why not 2 Inch PVC. It's actually very similar to a Buzz Bee Big Blast.


    Here' a pick of the Big Blast internals. Note the size of the air tank:

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    (pic courtesy of, http://nerfornothing.blogspot.com)

    If you're confused, that huge cylinder thing behind the firing pin and 'bulb' is the air tank. It serves the same function as the skinny tube in the BBUMB. However, Big Blast tank is much more powerful! Size Matters!!!

    The black tube sticking out of the back of the air tank is the pump/plunger tube.

    People will usually cut that off, seal the end and then attach a bike pump to the cylinder/air tank.

    Hope this helps. M.I.G.



    Switchblade wrote:Question:
    With the BBUMB, when I use the pump (to fill the air tank), no air is stored. I have then understanding that the air tank is situated where the pin is, correct? So if I use the pump to 'push' air through to the tank, nothing happens, yet if I take that section of of the setup, and just blow air through the pipe, it come out the other end.

    Vid to better explain point:
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    Post  random guy Mon May 09, 2011 1:02 pm

    Can I use Vaseline as a lubricant(for nerf guns)?
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    Post  Unknown Mon May 09, 2011 1:04 pm

    No, it will ruin your O-ring, try silicone grease or specialised O-ring lube.

    My local Bunnings has them in the plumbing section.
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    Post  clunk07 Mon May 09, 2011 2:03 pm

    @MIG - I assume the smaller bulb in front of the air tank in both blaster's is the firing pin system?
    Maybe similar to a piston valve?
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    Post  makeitgo Mon May 09, 2011 2:19 pm

    Yes. That smaller bulb with the firing pin is the pressure release valve. It is in no way the 'air tank'. In some air blasters the air tank and release valve are connected looking like one piece but internally there are 2 separate chambers. One for the air tank and the other the release valve. eg Nerf Titan tank.

    I'm surprised there hasn't been an 'upgraded' mod tutorial for the BBUMB. People usually slap on a coupler and hopper system and call it a day... hmmm... Maybe I should do a vid for this.

    clunk07 wrote:@MIG - I assume the smaller bulb in front of the air tank in both blaster's is the firing pin system?
    Maybe similar to a piston valve?
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    Post  clunk07 Mon May 09, 2011 2:22 pm

    makeitgo wrote:Yes. That smaller bulb with the firing pin is the pressure release valve. It is in no way the 'air tank'. In some air blasters the air tank and release valve are connected looking like one piece but internally there are 2 separate chambers. One for the air tank and the other the release valve. eg Nerf Titan tank.

    I'm surprised there hasn't been an 'upgraded' mod tutorial for the BBUMB. People usually slap on a coupler and hopper system and call it a day... hmmm... Maybe I should do a vid for this.

    clunk07 wrote:@MIG - I assume the smaller bulb in front of the air tank in both blaster's is the firing pin system?
    Maybe similar to a piston valve?

    Thanks for the info. For some reason I thought the Titan had a piston-valve air tank, which only has one chamber from memory (The PVAT, not the Titan)
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    Post  lefty Mon May 09, 2011 3:07 pm

    makeitgo wrote:Yes. That smaller bulb with the firing pin is the pressure release valve. It is in no way the 'air tank'. In some air blasters the air tank and release valve are connected looking like one piece but internally there are 2 separate chambers. One for the air tank and the other the release valve. eg Nerf Titan tank.

    I'm surprised there hasn't been an 'upgraded' mod tutorial for the BBUMB. People usually slap on a coupler and hopper system and call it a day... hmmm... Maybe I should do a vid for this.

    clunk07 wrote:@MIG - I assume the smaller bulb in front of the air tank in both blaster's is the firing pin system?
    Maybe similar to a piston valve?

    Switch.
    If your thinking of the way I put together the longbumb, then yes I have used the smaller bulb as the tank but you still require the non-return (one way) valve. This was at the end of the pump body. To fit the bike pump I cut and capped the end of the BBUMB pump body and sealed it with commercial grade epoxy (not the 3 day crap) and then tapped and fitted a suitable high pressure hose back to the bike pump.

    I will take it apart this week and take some photos of the construction, it's incredibly simple when you actually see it. I'll PM you to let you know were I post it
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    Post  clunk07 Mon May 09, 2011 3:11 pm

    lefty wrote:
    makeitgo wrote:Yes. That smaller bulb with the firing pin is the pressure release valve. It is in no way the 'air tank'. In some air blasters the air tank and release valve are connected looking like one piece but internally there are 2 separate chambers. One for the air tank and the other the release valve. eg Nerf Titan tank.

    I'm surprised there hasn't been an 'upgraded' mod tutorial for the BBUMB. People usually slap on a coupler and hopper system and call it a day... hmmm... Maybe I should do a vid for this.

    clunk07 wrote:@MIG - I assume the smaller bulb in front of the air tank in both blaster's is the firing pin system?
    Maybe similar to a piston valve?

    Switch.
    If your thinking of the way I put together the longbumb, then yes I have used the smaller bulb as the tank but you still require the non-return (one way) valve. This was at the end of the pump body. To fit the bike pump I cut and capped the end of the BBUMB pump body and sealed it with commercial grade epoxy (not the 3 day crap) and then tapped and fitted a suitable high pressure hose back to the bike pump.

    I will take it apart this week and take some photos of the construction, it's incredibly simple when you actually see it. I'll PM you to let you know were I post it

    count me in on that PM too please mate, I'm just starting to look at air tank blaster's, and how they function etc.
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    Post  Luke Mon May 09, 2011 3:18 pm

    Oh and me to
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    Post  makeitgo Mon May 09, 2011 3:53 pm

    @clunk07 Technically, you are correct. The Titan is a piston valve. I was using it as an example of a single encased unit. The air gets stored behind the piston until it is pulled/released. The piston acts as a wall essentially dividing the tank into 2 chambers. I was trying to keep it simple for Switchblade.
    The piston system is more efficient because it delivers the air more directly and in greater volume per unit time but is much more complicated internally to produce.

    Super Soakers use the same system as the 4B and BBUMB. A separate air chamber and a separate chamber for the release valve. Production wise it's cheaper for them to produce. Just create one type of release valve and add different sized air chambers to produce different types of blasters. Not so much in the newer Super Soakers but the ones produced in the 90's (Larami not Hasbro), All the XP blasters had the same air pressure release valves but different air tanks or as they called them, resevoirs.

    I think the new Water Warriors series uses the same principal. I haven't chopped on of those up yet though. But the design and ball like resevoirs look quite similar.

    FYI, just in case you didn't already know, modified Super Soakers are totally kick a$$ in the POWER department.

    I have a modified SS xp150 from '94 and it shoots my Stefans over 250 feet flat!!! I've actually had it hit well over 270 feet but could never confirm because we never found those darts. Goes through coke cans like they weren't even there. It makes my singled Titan look like an amateur. Unfortunately, I can never use it in a war. But it does make a cool FU blaster to shoot inanimate objects with. It's unbelievably deadly accurate and EXTREMELY LOUD.

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    Added Recon stock and 18 inch coupler and barrel. CPVC barrel incased in aluminium for looks and support.
    Pictured here with my Octo for size comparison.

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    The 2 blue spheres are the air pressure reservoirs. They're easily twice the volume of a Titan tank each. That's 4 times the air volume!!!...So much power....



    clunk07 wrote:
    makeitgo wrote:Yes. That smaller bulb with the firing pin is the pressure release valve. It is in no way the 'air tank'. In some air blasters the air tank and release valve are connected looking like one piece but internally there are 2 separate chambers. One for the air tank and the other the release valve. eg Nerf Titan tank.

    I'm surprised there hasn't been an 'upgraded' mod tutorial for the BBUMB. People usually slap on a coupler and hopper system and call it a day... hmmm... Maybe I should do a vid for this.

    clunk07 wrote:@MIG - I assume the smaller bulb in front of the air tank in both blaster's is the firing pin system?
    Maybe similar to a piston valve?

    Thanks for the info. For some reason I thought the Titan had a piston-valve air tank, which only has one chamber from memory (The PVAT, not the Titan)
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    Post  clunk07 Mon May 09, 2011 4:00 pm

    Hey MIG, that Super soaker looks frickin' deadly!!

    I'm just about to start an attempt on building a PVAT, out of 1 inch pvc to start with. Using a tutorial from NH, but having a few issues replicating parts with Aussie bits. Anyway, I'm hoping to have a prototype manufactured this week. Admittedly, my pneumatic engineering knowledge is limited, but there's only one way to learn!!
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    Post  Mozart Mon May 09, 2011 6:30 pm

    Safety glasses are the cheapest insurance policy around, when dealing with stuff that could blow up. Not that I think you're all retarded, just wouldn't like to hear something horrible.

    That Super Soaker's range has just gotten me interested in Super Soaker conversions! I guess it's safe to assume today's stock of Super Soakers such in comparison, though?
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    Post  Switchblade Tue May 10, 2011 12:23 am

    lefty wrote:
    makeitgo wrote:Yes. That smaller bulb with the firing pin is the pressure release valve. It is in no way the 'air tank'. In some air blasters the air tank and release valve are connected looking like one piece but internally there are 2 separate chambers. One for the air tank and the other the release valve. eg Nerf Titan tank.

    I'm surprised there hasn't been an 'upgraded' mod tutorial for the BBUMB. People usually slap on a coupler and hopper system and call it a day... hmmm... Maybe I should do a vid for this.

    clunk07 wrote:@MIG - I assume the smaller bulb in front of the air tank in both blaster's is the firing pin system?
    Maybe similar to a piston valve?

    Switch.
    If your thinking of the way I put together the longbumb, then yes I have used the smaller bulb as the tank but you still require the non-return (one way) valve. This was at the end of the pump body. To fit the bike pump I cut and capped the end of the BBUMB pump body and sealed it with commercial grade epoxy (not the 3 day crap) and then tapped and fitted a suitable high pressure hose back to the bike pump.

    I will take it apart this week and take some photos of the construction, it's incredibly simple when you actually see it. I'll PM you to let you know were I post it
    Hahaha thanks man, I think my dad is going to use a, a... Ah shit what was it called again? I think he said it's like a car valve? Anyway, I think he has a 1way valve of his own to add to it, but those pics would still be great
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    Post  makeitgo Tue May 10, 2011 12:35 am

    @Mozart Unfortunately, they do suck in comparison but they're still decent! 120 to 160 feet isn't bad. ... but we're talking the 'Nerf' Super Soakers (Hasbro). The new Buzz Bee Water Warrior series, the air pressurized ones, are very similar to the old Larami XP (Extra Power) Super Soaker series. They're advertised to shoot up to 40 feet!! But remember, that's a steady stream of water up to 40 feet. Probably about half a cup of water. A half a cup of water weighs WAYYYY more than a single Stefan. The only problem is the Water Warriors are 'glued' shut. You can use the boiling water trick to loosen the glue bonds though.

    The Larami Super Soaker line received some heat from concerned parents because injuries started occuring. Especially with the 'CPS' (Constant Pressure System) Super Soakers. They had a bladder system like the Magstrike has. Those were the MUTHA F@#%@ERS of Super Soakers. Some of them could Launch and maintain a whole GALLON of constant water pressure up to 50 feet!!! Man I want one of those!!! Needless to say, they were discontinued. Since Hasbro has picked up the line, they've made them 'safer'. Adding their own water blaster equivalent of an air restrictor. In most of them, except the Hydro Cannon I believe, have integrated the water tank and the air pressure chamber. What you really want are the ones with separate air pressure chambers. If you look at the new Water Warrior serious, they have those weird looking spheres on them. Although they look funny, those spheres are the heart of their power. Those are the separate air pressure chambers. Just like the XP Super Soaker blasters.
    Coupler it and stick a hopper on it and you're good to go... but you wouldn't be able to use it in a war.... unless everyone is clueless... but they'll wise up once they regain consciousness.

    Just like we have Nerf/Foam Blaster forums and mod tutorials, they have them too. It's just harder for them to organize wars. They're seasonal and they're a much smaller community.
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    Post  makeitgo Tue May 10, 2011 12:40 am

    A tire valve is perfect. That's what your dad is talking about. It has a one way valve so you can get rid of the whole plunger tube and plunger completely. That way you can detach your bike pump and use it in another blaster ... or just use it as a bike pump.

    Switchblade wrote:
    Hahaha thanks man, I think my dad is going to use a, a... Ah shit what was it called again? I think he said it's like a car valve? Anyway, I think he has a 1way valve of his own to add to it, but those pics would still be great

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    Post  Switchblade Tue May 10, 2011 12:53 am

    makeitgo wrote:A tire valve is perfect. That's what your dad is talking about. It has a one way valve so you can get rid of the whole plunger tube and plunger completely. That way you can detach your bike pump and use it in another blaster ... or just use it as a bike pump.

    Switchblade wrote:
    Hahaha thanks man, I think my dad is going to use a, a... Ah shit what was it called again? I think he said it's like a car valve? Anyway, I think he has a 1way valve of his own to add to it, but those pics would still be great

    Ahh cool thanks

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